Sunday, August 28, 2005

Run that by me again?

Said about Fred Phelps:

I wouldn't normally give this crap any kind of attention, but it really gets to me that there are actually people out there who think God capable of hatred. No matter what one's image of God/Goddess/Spirit may be, it seems to be inherently cognitively dissonant to claim that God hates anyone. How arrogant, to claim to know the mind of God.

I don't like him either, but I see a logical disconnect here.

CC

5 comments:

fausto said...

I don't understand what you're saying. I would agree that it is arrogant to claim to know the mind of God. Fred "God Hates Fags" Phelps certainly makes that claim.

TheCSO said...

I don't see how "God hates some people" is "inherently cognitively dissonant". Sure, if you're claiming to be a UU, (or, to be more precise, Universalist) believing that God hates people is believing something in direct conflict with your stated religion.

I fail to see the dissonance with conservative Christianity, though. There's plenty in the Bible to support the idea that God is petty and vengeful - if you play those parts up, a God who hates people is a reasonable conclusion.

It's also pretty arrogant to claim to know the mind of God to such an extent that one can be completely sure that God *doesn't* hate anyone.

Chalicechick said...

Exactly. My concern was the second one.

You can say:

A. That to claim to know the mind of God is arrogant.
and B. That God is incapable of hatred.

But to say them at the same time is strange.

CC
arrongant enough to suspect that God can hate concepts and doesn't completely discount the possibility that God could hate...say... Nora Ephron, for example.

indrax said...

The commenter Might have been that God is above all the human emotions such as hate. God is too big to have the kinds of feelings we smart animals have.
In this way, you can know God doesn't 'hate' without knowing the mind of God.
If the commenter were also willing to say 'it seems to be inherently cognitively dissonant to claim that God loves anyone' then they would have a case.

But I doubt that's what they meant.

Chalicechick said...

I'd say that to say that God is above human emotions is also to claim to know the mind of God.

CC