Question: If the ACORN employees at every single office O'Keefe and Giles visited had taken them seriously and those kids had hours of footage of themselves getting kicked out of a dozen ACORN offices, what would they have?
Answer: They would have footage that could be edited into "evidence" that ACORN kicks out white people who come to ACORN looking for help. As long as O'Keefe and Giles edited out the images of what they were wearing and never released all of their tapes, ACORN would be able to claim that they wanted help buying a whorehouse, but O'Keefe and Giles could just say that was a crazy lie on ACORN's part and O'Keefe and Giles's fans would believe them much as many of them continue to believe in that ACORN employee's non-existent dead ex-husband.
There would be videos all over the internet of angry looking ACORN employees throwing them out and threatening to call the police if they didn't stop trespassing, and O'Keefe and Giles could have shown up on Fox and Friends in their Sunday best, denying those crazy rumors that they came dressed as a Pimp and Ho. Giles could call it part of the same sexism of the left that Sarah Palin faced and O'Keefe could have said that he wore the same suit he was wearing today. (And just not mentioned the big hat and fur coat.) I mean, O'Keefe and Giles lie in the video about ACORN's funding and have repeatedly lied to the press*.
No matter what the ACORN employees did, the moment O'Keefe and Giles stepped into their first ACORN office, ACORN was getting defunded.
I never said those kids were stupid.
CC
*They likely lied under the reasonable assumption that if an ACORN office had called the police, the police wouldn't take a report since nothing illegal had actually occurred. Let the record show that for once CC is pleased at some police overzealousness since the image of the Philly PD's police report makes the point far more clearly that ACORN's repeated requests that O'Keefe and Giles release the tapes from Philly and some of the other offices they visited where they made a huge fuss as they were being thrown out.
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Question: If the ACORN employees at every single office O'Keefe and Giles visited had taken them seriously and those kids had hours of footage of themselves getting kicked out of a dozen ACORN offices, what would they have?
They would have white people looking for help trafficing children for sex trade. That's really a crime.
I took the Army's Human Trafficing awarness course before deployment. When someone approaches you looking for help trading people, you call the cops.
If the ACORN people had done that, they'd still be funded.
(((They would have white people looking for help trafficing children for sex trade.)))
Not if they edited that part out of the video.
(((When someone approaches you looking for help trading people, you call the cops.)))
But the cops don't usually take a report when there's no proof that anything illegal has happened. The Philly police did take a report that said essentially "Two people showed up at an ACORN office and made a verbal disturbance when they were asked to leave" but even that doesn't mention the human trafficking since there was no proof it existed.
(((If the ACORN people had done that, they'd still be funded.)))
I seriously have the impression that facts don't matter to you but several ACORN offices claim they did call the police but were told there was nothing to be done since the people hadn't actually done anything other than making a fuss when they were asked to leave, though only the Philly police office took a report.
Even if you've decided not to believe the representatives of other ACORN offices (except when they are confessing to murder,) I'm not sure how you can read the police report and deny that the Philly folks called the cops.
I mean, I'm sure you will manage but I'm not sure how you will make that work logically.
CC
Tauntalism demands that O'Keefe and Giles both be caught on video soliciting sex from a minority prostitute.
It might be a part of their act, it might not. Either way, I would hope it would blow up in their face.
My husband was skeptical of your theory that they just would have turned it around to be "ACORN discriminates against whitey!" In the ensuing discussion, I pointed out something I don't think I mentioned here, which is that the advice that they could just declare the South American child prostitutes as "dependents" is obviously and egregiously wrong -- for many years now, you've needed a valid SSN for each dependent. (Prior to that requirement, people were claiming a lot more children than actually existed; I saw a stat that after the instituting of the requirement, the purported number of children in the U.S. -- going by IRS records -- shrank by something like 100k.)
So, you're saying these people lied and distorted, and it worked. They got what they wanted, and there's no way they wouldn't have gotten what they wanted. Is that right?
Why does it work, and keep working? Why do people keep believing known liars? Where's the outrage? Lying shouldn't be rewarded. Why do Americans put up with this?
kimc,
They didn't lie in a technical sense. They'll just edit the video to make their point.
And it's unquestionably stupid on ACORN's part, especially knowing that they're under fire from the right, to think it would be funny or cute to try to take the piss out of these kids. It's like O'Keefe's prior stunt with Planned Parenthood -- you're not paranoid if they're really out to get you.
Yeah, I certainly don't deny the basic stupidity of what they did.
If you suspect they are reporters initially, even if you decide that they are college kids playing a prank later, you should probably trust your initial instinct enough not to screw around with them.
CC
On the upside: "the ACORN director vowed to fire anyone who is 'too stupid to understand that they are not reaching professional standards.'
So it looks like there's a consensus on "that was stupid."
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