Monday, June 19, 2006

If Christian-bashing in UU churches depresses you

By all means check out what the Church of the Subgenius folks are saying. It's been a long time since I've heard a UU talk about Christians in such a hateful way.

I feel a lot better about us.

CC

8 comments:

Matt said...

The best move is to not give these trolls the oxygen of publicity. They're clearly not interested in real debate.

Mystical Seeker said...

I left a comment in another UU blog in which I argued as a plea for tolerance that there is good and bad to be found in the way lots of faiths are interpreted, including both Christianity and Islam. I was attacked by one individual for making such a comment. I think there is a lot of intolerance that assumes that all religion or all of a particular religion is fundamentalist, and that there is no value to be found in certain faiths as a result. This attitude obviously permeats this group of people as well.

Promoting a tolerant middle ground that criticizes intolerant variants on religion while still understanding the diversity that characterizes the great world faiths is often a difficult task. You get it from both sides--the intolerant fundamentalists and the intolerant religion-haters.

LaReinaCobre said...

I have never found it easy to explain to people why they ought to "respect" or tolerate others.

Anonymous said...

And yet, you were the first one to accuse the Subgeniuses of being filled with hate.

Kim said...

What do you mean you have trouble explaining why they should tolerate or respect others? You mean it's not obvious? (irony off)
I always heard that respect should be earned. Or maybe you just give them the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise?

Chalicechick said...

Ummm.. I didn't say I hated the Church of the SubGenius. My criticisms have actually become pretty mild since I realized that this is some sort of Dadaist performance art thing rather than people seriously being bigoted.

But various Subgenius folks on that thread have said some awfully nasty things about Christians and I think that's undeniable.

CC

Anonymous said...

Your words were: "I can't imagine the kind of hate the SubGenius woman's son is picking up, all in the name of 'humor.'"

Chalicechick said...

Right, I didn't say I hated them. I said they were hateful of Christians and that their kids will pick up on that.

You think that if people say things like "And I suppose believing in a mythical Santa Daddy in the sky for the past few thousand years or whatever is a grownup act" in front of their kids, those kids won't grow up thinking anyone who is a Christian must be a stupid person?

How do you think other kinds of hate spread from generation to generation?

Anyway, I don't hate the subgenii. I don't agree with them, but I don't think disagreement is worth hating over. So I don't understand the point of your first comment, which seems to imply that I do hate them.


CC
who has heard that the Church of the Subgenius lady with the custody case is now a Presbyterian. Talking about how she and her husband think it's hilarious to make fun of Jesus must make for odd conversations at the potlucks.