tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post2687632895579235221..comments2023-10-24T05:49:04.269-04:00Comments on The Chaliceblog: Symbolic OutrageChalicechickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07781469958573869914noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-55288052739018878522008-09-30T14:04:00.000-04:002008-09-30T14:04:00.000-04:00Congrats on the UU blog award. Great post. Very in...Congrats on the UU blog award. Great post. Very interesting. "Be the change you wish to see in the world..." - Gandhi My favorite quoteLyndithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09028339111374184076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-17974848776462163072008-02-16T15:27:00.000-05:002008-02-16T15:27:00.000-05:00Well deserving of a UU blog award, CC. Good job.Well deserving of a UU blog award, CC. Good job.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00370246548842255062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-63883903590581198222008-02-16T11:38:00.000-05:002008-02-16T11:38:00.000-05:00Critical thinking and common sense are a good part...Critical thinking and common sense are a good part of what I have been imploring in my protests against U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy for over a decade now but, so far. . . U*Us have either abjectly failed, or quite obstinately refused, to engage in genuine critical thinking or make good use of common sense.Robin Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06208142626285495635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-59715114979631312952007-10-16T10:33:00.000-04:002007-10-16T10:33:00.000-04:00I've linked to this post on my blog, Chalice Chick...I've linked to this post on my blog, Chalice Chick.<BR/><BR/>What you're said is much in line with something I blogged about around a month ago. <BR/><BR/>Critical thinking and common sense is what you're imploring in this post.Comrade Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393718048145784837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-33704322846760780302007-10-15T14:42:00.000-04:002007-10-15T14:42:00.000-04:00I love this list so much I crossposted it two plac...I love this list so much I crossposted it two places.<BR/><BR/>I think it is the path to get to my sweet-cum-witty psyton-years now that I have somehow devolved into this epilonious bitchbishop.epilonioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05532230027733099956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-11445124314570500452007-10-14T17:17:00.000-04:002007-10-14T17:17:00.000-04:00Certainly there is a difference between protesting...Certainly there is a difference between protesting in order to recommit oneself to a cause, connect with others who support it, etc., and protesting because you think <A HREF="http://www.blogdenovo.org/archives/000222.html" REL="nofollow">that in itself will create a major social/legal change</A>. At least in the U.S., it won't. <BR/><BR/>I am inclined to see a more direct usefulness for protesting in countries where it's actually dangerous to do so; if you can't have a real democracy at the polls, a huge number of people in the streets might be the best that can be done to signify displeasure with the current government.<BR/><BR/>However, I think showing bodies can be useful even in the U.S. on very small issues. For example, I once participated in a vigil to get an accused murderer (no one political, just an average guy) extradited. The State Department had the ability to do it, and it fit with existing law; they simply hadn't prioritized the matter. By showing that there were people who cared and would be willing to raise a stink if inaction continued, I think we helped to get that tiny bit of diplomacy done.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-22673373929598826942007-10-14T16:00:00.000-04:002007-10-14T16:00:00.000-04:00"To be clear, I did not say that people who protes..."To be clear, I did not say that people who protest were morons. I said that people who protest and believe that by doing so they are saving the world in some capacity were morons."<BR/><BR/>Well that really clears things up CC. . .<BR/><BR/>ROTFLMU*UORobin Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06208142626285495635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-75401623081943687512007-10-14T10:03:00.000-04:002007-10-14T10:03:00.000-04:00I think Obama's pin issue a pretty calculated even...I think Obama's pin issue a pretty calculated event to recover a bit on a HRC who seems to be overwhelming the opposition.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if I'd read much more into it than that...<BR/><BR/>If your interested in the politics of the flag, I'd suggest this <A HREF="http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1395/article_detail.asp#" REL="nofollow">review</A> of Todd Gitlin's <EM>Intellectuals and the Flag.</EM><BR/><BR/>The flag's been contentious for liberals and the left ever since I was a kid.. I remember refusing to stand at football games in HS, raising clenched fist instead, etc, etc... <BR/><BR/>I think Obama playing on those old issues in the party more than anything else.Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-28770952517395869772007-10-14T09:34:00.000-04:002007-10-14T09:34:00.000-04:00To be clear, I did not say that people who protest...To be clear, I did not say that people who protest were morons. I said that people who protest and believe that by doing so they are saving the world in some capacity were morons. <BR/><BR/>And Robin, the Chaliceblog gets 200 views on a good day, so your video getting viewed that many times in two weeks doesn't seem like many people are watchng to me.Chalicechickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07781469958573869914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-6059578876110410002007-10-14T01:11:00.000-04:002007-10-14T01:11:00.000-04:00Great list of suggestions. I like to think I do m...Great list of suggestions. I like to think I do most of those things AND I'm one of those people who show up at rally's. They aren't exclusive of each other. Two weeks ago I attended a rally urgning Governor Schwarzenegger to sign a marriage equality bill KNOWING that he had already siad he would veto it. But I went to the rally because I knew it would make me feel good. It would make me feel stronger and more commited to the cause. It would make me feel I had actually participated not just watched and waited. Am I a moron? Well maybe. But I did feel better, and it certainly didn't hurt anything to be there.Rick Hoyt-McDanielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09466114281907605221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-31768197874022914332007-10-14T00:09:00.000-04:002007-10-14T00:09:00.000-04:00I didn't realize it reached full-blown controversy...I didn't realize it reached full-blown controversy stage, but when I saw the AP wire last week, I immediately went...<BR/><BR/>... to post an item on Facebook.<BR/><BR/>at 3:49pm Oct 4<BR/>Area Man Not Exactly Sure When To Take Down American Flags | The Onion - America's Finest News So...<BR/>http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28169<BR/>UTICA, NY—After more than four months of proudly displaying American flags on his car, home, and body, 47-year-old computer consultant Jerry Wenger is uncertain when the appropriate time will be to take them down.<BR/><BR/>"Obama is Area Man! Except more decisive, 'cause he knew when to take off his lapel pin."<BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Obama-No-Flag-Pin.html<BR/><BR/>As for Head Start, unless the person opposing it is saying, "Let's funnel the money into K-12 education or other ways to improve the prospects of disadvantaged children" -- for example, if that person wants to kick the money into highly speculative defense projects instead -- I still feel OK calling that person a heartless bastard. No, Head Start doesn't permanently "fix" the life of a kid who is starting out with a lot of disadvantages, but it's doing more than education; it also works with parents to help them understand what will contribute to their child's well-being, especially in areas like health and diet.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-62427850862971710072007-10-13T20:05:00.000-04:002007-10-13T20:05:00.000-04:00People are watching U*U Tube.Here`s a good example...People are <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/robinedgar" REL="nofollow">watching U*U Tube</A>.<BR/><BR/>Here`s <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfxw1yZAS0M" REL="nofollow">a good example</A>. . . ;-)Robin Edgarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06208142626285495635noreply@blogger.com