tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post114497744120210534..comments2023-10-24T05:49:04.269-04:00Comments on The Chaliceblog: I so wanted to like this manifestoChalicechickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07781469958573869914noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-1145036493040904022006-04-14T13:41:00.000-04:002006-04-14T13:41:00.000-04:00It doesn't say that anyone who's an anti-Zionist i...It doesn't say that anyone who's an anti-Zionist is an anti-semite. It says that some people "conceal prejudice against the Jewish people behind the formula of 'anti-Zionism'". Not the same thing at all. It's "some anti-Zionists are anti-semites", not "all anti-Zionists are anti-semites".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9864334.post-1145014674812744472006-04-14T07:37:00.000-04:002006-04-14T07:37:00.000-04:00Hey thanks for picking up on this...I disagree str...Hey thanks for picking up on this...<BR/><BR/>I disagree strongly on 1 and 4. <BR/><BR/>People can make a good argument for 1, and many do including yourself here.. but my point would be there is noting liberal or progressive about the postions. It's a deeply conservative view.<BR/><BR/>As for 4, I think there is an ugly strain of anti semtism growning among the left. I hear and see things I though unimaginable e.g. a UU with a webpage showing the drive behind the Iraq war as a Jewish prayer shawl; click on it and an Israeli flag appeared.... or check the fellow who called the Euston Manifesto signers <EM>hebes</EM>.<BR/><BR/>Not to mention the <EM>smash the jewish state</EM> at the SF anti war demo.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.engageonline.org.uk/home/" REL="nofollow">Engage</A> is a good site to track leftish anti semitism.<BR/><BR/>Also Nick Cohen's <A HREF="http://www.nickcohen.net/?p=13" REL="nofollow">column</A> on you won't believe the anti semitism abou to hit you. It's a shock when it hits you.<BR/><BR/>Globalization and Trade Unions... I agree with you on your Globalization points... I'm not certain they're in conflict with the manifesto... I think a stronger Interanational Trade Union movement allowed operate in free in democratic countries together with free trade the best solution...<BR/><BR/>But this all deserves more discussion and I'm pressed but hopefully this whole manifesto is going to spur more talk among the left... the good in it in my opinion far out weighs any flaws.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for picking up on it.Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.com